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Should we make a new RPG
Yes 16 (80%)
No 4 (20%)
Total Votes: 20
Should we make Pokemon be priced through packs or individually?
Through packs 6 (37.5%)
Buy individual pokemon 8 (50%)
Other suggestion 2 (12.5%)
Total Votes: 16
Should TMs be permanent or buy one at a time?
Buy one TM at a time (costs less) 7 (41.2%)
Buy a permanent TM (expensive) 10 (58.8%)
Total Votes: 17
Have Level Caps?
Yes for every gym 11 (68.8%)
No (different suggestion) 5 (31.3%)
Total Votes: 16
Have teams and classes?
Yes along with differing starter pokemon 7 (43.8%)
Yes but no classes 1 (6.3%)
No but have classes with differing starter pokemon 2 (12.5%)
No (everything in general about teams and classes) 6 (37.5%)
Total Votes: 16
Use a unique world or an existing pokemon world?
Unique world 10 (55.6%)
Existing Pokemon world (Ex: Kanto, Johto, Ocean, Sinnoh, Unova, Kalos) 8 (44.4%)
Total Votes: 18
Have Megas?
Yes 16 (80%)
No 4 (20%)
Total Votes: 20
RPG suggestions
Topic Started: Oct 19 2014, 09:50 PM (3,328 Views)
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Here are a bunch of questioins involving a possible RPG revival.

We have discussed on making another, hopefully with less mod involvement and more freedom. (The constant monitoring sort of bugged out alot of people, including us mods)

Let's make this place more active!
Edited by Aura, Oct 19 2014, 10:03 PM.
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Er, we're not keeping the daily limit for Rare Candies. Just saying.
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The current proposed idea is that you start with a team of 6 that does not exceed a certain point limit.
Take a look at this: https://www.pokebattle.com/dex/pokemon/?all=true
Let's just give an example, that your base point limit is 200 points. Then you must choose 6 pokemon that are at its lowest evolution stage that add up to 200 points (or less)
New pokemon can be bought individually with regard to the use in competitive (Unless you guys want packs. Or we could do some packs and individual sales, so you could potentially get something expensive for less if you're lucky but of course you might get unlucky every single time)

Final team with fully evolved pokemon cannot exceed 1000 points in total, and ubers are banned atm. So keep changing pokemon around to make the best team you can.

But we want to keep this simple and more Player vs Player instead of Mod vs Player where previous RPGs were heavily reliant on mod rolling dices, and stuff. The idea is a competitive environment that combines all tiers together. I know some might like packs more but its much easier if you can choose your own pokemon

And what Starf said - you can buy 100000000 rare candies a day if you want. But you must have the cash.

I'll explain it a bit more if you guys want me to
Edited by Marc, Oct 20 2014, 12:09 AM.
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@Starf: I'll delete the poll then
@Marc: For now I'll keep that question in case there are doubts involving that idea. Although, I do believe that is a very interesting way to balance teams.


The daily rare candy idea being scrapped is actually better off. It was really bad for people who just started the RPG, since they would never catch up. The daily aspect of the RPG also made things feel like chores but I never really questioned the decision. I hope the Dynamo system becomes our main source of money increase.
Edited by Aura, Oct 20 2014, 12:27 AM.
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There's an interesting addon for the Dynamo which adds an experience bar to your profile. You gain experience per post and you level up. It has a progress bar too.

This might be cool? Maybe you need a certain level to use certain pokemon or battle certain leaders etc, just a thought!
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I don't want to make the RPG too post heavy, because when we've tried that, it has never really worked out.
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While posts are the main income, I think the experience bar idea might cause too much spam or stress out players too much. The job system was somewhat successful but that's because we had a set limit. I think the point system that Marc talked about is good enough.

Perhaps we could use this option for something different?
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I think another problem is that going into the RPG a few weeks in is awkward when participating in the story-journey from nowhere.
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The thing is, you get to buy as many RC's as you can a day. at 10 each, training something to level 100 is only 1000$.
It's not that hard for new players to join. They can challenge gyms, daily activities even if they can't battle older players. Or they could challenge older players to a 500 point challenge so you're all limited to not-as-strong pokemon (if you haven't reached 1000 points yet)

I think we'll see how it goes. If the disparity is too high, we'll come up with ways to help new players
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No, don't make one... The early game is fun for most, but in the end most people quit because they are bored. Forget the whole RPG-idea. The community was too small in the best day of PGN to keep it running for a long time, and nowadays the community has decreased in size even more. Just be creative and think of NEW ways to get new members and keep the already existing members with interesting reviews, walkthroughs, etc, new games WHATEVER it is, but not a useless RPG...

IF you guys decide to DO make a RPG for some reason, ditch the team-idea. The team idea was great when we had a HUGE active member-base with lots of people who posted 50-100 posts per day. With the little amount of active members teams will alienate people, instead of introducing the many new members to the older members (like the old squad/team system worked): Back then, new members were placed in teams of older members to work together. Because there were SO many people, the older members tended to talk with eachother more than the newbies. With the squad/team system, people were "forced" to work together in a playful environment. HOWEVER now we have such low activity that the new and old are already "forced" to work together in rebuilding PGN. Teams will only cause rivalry for no apparent reason.

Just ditch the whole RPG idea. It says enough that since ''11 we have had EIGHT DIFFERENT POKEMON RPG'S THAT ALL DIED. On average that is 1 RPG every 4.5 months, aka, completely useless and a waste of time.
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It would be nice if our forum was able to come up with some game that is there in the front for everyone to see and play along with foruming and chatting with each other. Something like TRANSFORMICE (which is both a game and a forum), try to Google it! :)

I know, the idea is farfetched but, it is something people would dive into... Could we do something like that please?

Like you brought all the forum statistics in front, would it be wise to bring the arcade games (we already had/ have) in the front, Gforce? (just saying)

That way not only will the people join to play the game, but it will make a good chat/ competitive community...

Just putting this idea out there. : p
Edited by Master Snowy, Nov 6 2014, 05:26 PM.
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No, don't make one... The early game is fun for most, but in the end most people quit because they are bored. Forget the whole RPG-idea. The community was too small in the best day of PGN to keep it running for a long time, and nowadays the community has decreased in size even more. Just be creative and think of NEW ways to get new members and keep the already existing members with interesting reviews, walkthroughs, etc, new games WHATEVER it is, but not a useless RPG...

IF you guys decide to DO make a RPG for some reason, ditch the team-idea. The team idea was great when we had a HUGE active member-base with lots of people who posted 50-100 posts per day. With the little amount of active members teams will alienate people, instead of introducing the many new members to the older members (like the old squad/team system worked): Back then, new members were placed in teams of older members to work together. Because there were SO many people, the older members tended to talk with eachother more than the newbies. With the squad/team system, people were "forced" to work together in a playful environment. HOWEVER now we have such low activity that the new and old are already "forced" to work together in rebuilding PGN. Teams will only cause rivalry for no apparent reason.

Just ditch the whole RPG idea. It says enough that since ''11 we have had EIGHT DIFFERENT POKEMON RPG'S THAT ALL DIED. On average that is 1 RPG every 4.5 months, aka, completely useless and a waste of time.



When I first heard the idea you put on how the forum activity could increase, I thought the idea was just right. I didn't think an RPG would really do much. The other gaming ideas such as reviews and walkthroughs have really failed to work. Poledoo and Raxby have some good channels for videos and such, but there doesn't seem to be enough interest to really post it on here. I actually have a couple of reviews in my topic list, but only 2 people ever comment and never really helps. (I hope there is more appreaciation for this in the future)

Now the RPG is being in development against your wishes, but we this time there are several things that we are changing.

1. Teams are gone. We have completely ditched those due to the inactivity of most members and it always failed. Perks are also dead.
2. Rare candies are no longer a daily chore to get. You can make level 100s right there if you want now that this is gone. The only daily activity thing is going to be missions.
3. Mod involvement is heavily decreased. This is more like people just playing in showdown for fun rather than it being a pretentious game with mods being online for everything.
4. All pokemon are avaliable and competitive is more involved. Instead of a pokemon pack and wild encounters by mods from the past, people can freely just use any pokemon for a small cost but are only limited through a point count.

Now I'm not sure how long this one will last and I realize just as well as anyone that the RPG has never been a everlasting work. However, each RPG always brings a huge boom to the population of the forum on opening day. When that happens I got a few things in my mind that we can do...
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If this idea doesn't pan out, it is easy for us to revert to a regular series of OU tournaments. The idea of this was to implement all the tiers into a single competitive idea so that people want to keep playing in order to earn cash to get better pokemon.
The point limit is to ensure that new players have more chance of catching up.
If this dies out, it can always become more of a competitive regime.
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I do not know much about these things but, I really like the new RPG ideas you guys have come up with! Sounds free and fun and I think we should totally give it a shot/ try.
I could not join the other rpgs properly but, this one sounds like the one that I can join and not lose much time, tbh. :D

So far sounds great to me and I fully support it!

One idea though and just in case it may give you guys ideas- why not put the battle screen in the front page of the forum, if that's possible?

Sorry if it's a bad idea, I'm just saying. : p
Edited by Master Snowy, Nov 9 2014, 01:20 PM.
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Sure. Would be interesting, like a ??? vs. ??? thing that GForce tried to do with the last rpg ;p
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That would be interesting too.. But, I was referring more to the gaming-forum-style type where you can see the ongoing battles happening in the front page of the forums, live etc... and view it as spectators or something or even be able to join in the battle... (a mixture of gaming and foruming at once!) Which may be too loose of an idea from my side, but worth putting it out there I guess.
Edited by Master Snowy, Nov 9 2014, 01:23 PM.
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Hmm... That might be a little too laggy for some people.
But we could do a Watch the RPG Live! thing where people would be directed to the battle or osmething
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Nov 9 2014, 01:22 PM
That would be interesting too.. But, I was referring more to the gaming-forum-style type where you can see the ongoing battles happening in the front page of the forums, live etc... and view it as spectators or something or even be able to join in the battle... (a mixture of gaming and foruming at once!) Which may be too loose of an idea from my side, but worth putting it out there I guess.
Considering my lack of knowledge in tech, is that even possible?

If so I'm surprised it's never been implemented in the past. Although, showdown DOES let us see the replays of the battles so I guess it's alright as it is.
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Again, as I have mentioned earlier, I was thinking of the Transformice forum style. Just to give out an idea that may lead to something you know :)

I cannot link you to Transformice from here. But you should Google it and see what I mean! :)

(Sorry if this looks like advertising or something.. If my post is wrong or against the forum rules or something, feel free to edit it you guys! :))
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